I'm theaters for North mission and I'm the director of the ICT authority in the Netherlands and you don't use video and way of communicating at the moment at the moment I I actually don't but in my previous job I was director of a of an ICT innovation company which have several several offices in the Netherlands and instead of traveling we used video conferencing a lot for internal communication so I've quite an experience with that this is something that you would consider introducing your new job awesome oh yeah sure sure I try to avoid the highways as much as possible or a public transport so I'm a great fan of using the new media for for conferencing for all kind of communication yes it's actually my present job I could add that on our website we have quite a few short video interviews with our stakeholders so so in that way we we use video yeah so you already have a little bit from with yes we already have a little bit yeah I was not interactive know why did you choose to have the video was it in shorts videos are very personal if so it's much more personal done if you have a written column or something like that so I think it's much more appealing to people