Webinar
Webinars 4.0 Testing
Friday August 12, 2022 12:45 Europe/Copenhagen
Kronborg
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If Kasper now tries to go in and while you're in there, can you choose another camera? No, I can't yet. Right? Maybe because the OBS is chosen. Maybe if you go on the top here, and go to the settings thing. Then it should be able to change the default. And then... Okay. So if we go through the flow, Kasper now tries to join us here. Maybe write in a very long question. Just type in nonsense, whatever. What about? Yes. So in here we now have... Kasper, you have an even longer question. Just to test that. I want to be sure that we are handling the... Can you write something even longer? Cancel the... I cancel this? Yes. And you should be gone. And then write... Immediately. Yes. I have asked. You can tell me all about it. Yes. So in here... Great. So we have a question that doesn't go out of bounds. We have a surprised Kasper. But that actually... Now he's happy. So... It actually right now... It sends a keyframe every... How many? 10 seconds. Okay. Okay. Let me just... Every 10 seconds. Just to have that. Okay. In here, these buttons are all according to the color scheme we have anyways. Right? Those are the main... No. Yes. They are according to color. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. They are according... They are. Yes. Yes. Okay. Great. So if I accept him in, he would get... Get in there. Then again... Yeah. Yeah. Because... The thing is... Yes. Yes. No. No. Because... Because... For the audience and the hosting side, you can have two different defaults. Because it's two different... URLs. URLs. You enter. Or what? No. Right. It's interesting. I would maybe... Because it's kind of two different applications. Yeah. It's more the experience of having one camera than the one that's going to use. Anyways, if... Yeah. That's a good question. I would be choosing the camera if in the next step... But we don't really have a way to choose the camera anyway. We'll just use the first one. Yeah. Yeah. That's just the kind of... But if you haven't ever been in a webinar... Then it would just take your default and the permission will be set by you allowing... While you're still in the audience room. Right? So... When you open the... You're going to have a device left, right? And it's the device that... If it is in there, and you have lifted, it's going to store the device that you are going to use in the local storage. Okay. So even if you don't go in and change your device, you're going to know which device you're using from local storage. And when you get redirected to this page, it's going to pick up that device from local storage. And you just get one. Okay. What does it change? Because we don't have the device selector in the audience yet, right? Yeah. I had big things when I made that feature. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To some extent. Makes sense. The next thing we need to look at is the audience... I just went on there and... Yes. Yes. And then we just need to... Yeah. I can change it. I'll just... I did it. Okay. And let's see. It's not hidden from me because I'm a guest, but not for other speakers, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty... Yeah. Okay. But that's perfect. That was the question. The guest speaker should still be able to vote in polls, but not the audience. Maybe let's make this as focused as we can. Yeah. Just this. I think... Yeah. Yeah. Then that's pretty perfect. And you can still write on the audience. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll just try writing in there. All right. Yeah. Yeah. That's... That's very good. I see we added this kind of focus. I think it's... I don't think we added that. It's just... It comes from the component itself, but it shouldn't be green, probably. The question is why it is green, right? Yeah. Okay. Yes. Okay. Okay. Yeah. One question here is we're now showing right now the speaker and then we can't. Yeah, maybe we should change that. Yeah. How would we do this? So do they get another question in the chat? But right now we don't have the speaker, right? So we can write whatever. So right now in the chat, when he is joined with the speaker, that has to be the speaker. What have you written down for things that we need to do? What questions is it about, right? Yes. So what are the rules here? So no label or speaker in the speaker chat. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And the highlighting thing that we take again in the chat. Okay. Anything else that we're seeing? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. If I want to go back. We have a lot of previous. Yeah. It's more. For me. I mean, this is when I had. So it would be. We would be able to show something here. We need some. It's a question. I think we were just like, go, go back. Other. Other. So you're right. Yeah. Okay. Go back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be dangerous. Should we do this? All right. Yeah. All right. So if I now. Just. I'm going to press. And. He is reloading. And jumping back. Yes. Now he's also gone. It takes a few. Fine. Until we have. And then. You should. After. Of the. We should not feel that. The audience. The. Audience. Review is. mandible. All of. The present therapy. Is going to be. Do you want to? Well, that. It is what I. I'm concerned about. That. Is right. Yes. So that is. All right. Thank you Thank you. So I will very kind of take time for you to decide for yourself. Hi. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And that's what we talked about, if it should be doable on a webinar basis so that you can't just have it for every webinar, but for the whole workspace, but all four single webinar, because there might be cases where you need it and cases where you don't need it. So like with like we do with the chat right now and customized experience. Well, that's different. If you want to, I mean, assign it to Emra anyways, but I think it's the startup. I mean, it's kind of, there are other things that we're doing like that. And I think let's take that if it becomes a thing with customers instead of the other way around. Yeah. Cool. So sidewise to begin with, I think that's fair. Sidewise that if you're in, where is it? Webinar settings. Webinar setup that here you get a thing that says enable John to speak. Yes. No. Yes. That's it. Good. People running in here, people running out here. As a webinar attendant, I want to be notified when I cannot join to speak because my browser does not support image capture API. I didn't create that one. I did. Do I need to explain what I meant by the title? What are the cases for the image capture API is not supported by where people should be able to, where the browser would actually be allowed to join. But shouldn't it only be, shouldn't it only be possible for people who are in Chrome because they are going to Chrome, I mean, that's, that's actually the question that I'm asking here, right? It's like, we should like John's speech. It only be available to people that can actually join. Yes. That makes sense. As a reasonable person. I don't want to get a feature that I'm not allowed to use. Yeah. So you just wrote all my list. As I am not crazy, I was. Okay. No, but that, that seems the right thing to do, right? Yeah. Because then the thing becomes that if you, if you're able to do cameras and all that kind of stuff, that's capital in this country. It's not supported for doing papers and all the other things. That doesn't seem right. Can I do so? Can we check if the image API is available without the thing? No, but you don't even need to check it here, right? Because this is not, if you are in Chrome, then it's available, right? If you have version 55 and above. Yes. Chrome or Chrome. Just Chrome or Chrome. Chrome. I think we have the, we have this browser thing where you can ask if it's in Chrome and then we just, if they do Chrome, you know, I guess that's what we are. Webinars can be on. I think this is cheaper for both of them. If you are in a browser from early 2017 and you're technically able to get your signature on that image capture, then it's possible. Okay. But maybe even a Chrome browser, if you're about to say like, this is my version, I want the January 2017 version of Chrome, it's not free. Yeah. I'll never upgrade this thing. But the whole thing is that it becomes an anti-checking at both. At both that, I guess, get you to the end. Like that you're in Chrome, get you to the end. Yeah. That's what I was asking. Won't checking for get user media be available prompt with the permissions thing? Why? Did you see type of navigator get user media equal function? That's my question. No, but they can't even run a version of Chrome like that, right? Because the button, the update button will now have grown that big. One version, yellow, two version, red, three version, it starts to grow. And from there, it's just getting... It's just the whole screen is... Exactly. One big button. How, but... Can you take that? Can you take this one? Sure. Did you assign the other one to Emrah? I didn't. Now I did. I think let's get these... Then I do this to Schwau. Which one? This? No, this one. I want to be notified. As a webinar, I don't want to be able to... I don't want to be able to see... If I cannot join to speak because my browser does not support image capture API. That's a great user story. At this point, it's all over for me. All right. Cool. As a webinar attendant that is joining to speak, I want to be able to see and be able to select my camera device. You have a branch in this, right? And it's also... Work with, so I'm just freestyling. Like, I don't have a design. This has been a problem with this whole feature all along. Because we are also adding things to it that... Yeah. This camera selector. If you tell me I should get a design, then I'll get... I'm getting a design. What are you thinking freestyle-wise? I don't know. I think it looks nice. I put it next to the cancel and join button. And I think... Yeah, I kind of want... No, it's the one we have in our room. Send me a screenshot of that and I'll make sure that we get that right. Yeah. I don't want to do any freestyle shots here that we then need to rework. But I think for now, it's a matter of where that should be. But the rest of the... We should be able to do the rest of the thing, right? Exactly. Great. Questions? No. Join to speak. Speak it, Chad. I have one last question. Yes. Regarding the device selector. Should you be able to select the audio output? Device or just camera input or audio input? I mean, we should just do it the same way you can do as a speaker in the room. Yeah, I think so. That's what sucks. Why? Because there is a huge provider that you have to wrap the audience app with. Because of audio output? Yeah. It's used whether it's video. There's this hook that the selector uses. To set the sync ID? I'm not sure I think so, yeah. It can't be a huge one. Okay. Oh, no, but maybe you just have... It's 300 and 239. But that's because it has a lot of stuff in there besides the sync ID. Yeah. That you don't need. You can move also. Yeah. Because it's always going to occur, right? Yeah. All right. Let's try to figure something out there. If we somehow need to be able... Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. Okay. Okay. You're there as a speaker. All right. So, if I'm being audited and can you write something in the speaker chat now? In the speaker chat. Does it know anything? But didn't you... Oh, you have written over it. Yeah. Okay. Hello from the speaker chat. Boink. Yes. So, I'm getting the point there. That's very good. I'm getting a message here from Google. And then the speaker chat. The other one is the same. You can write something in the audience chat. Yes. And... Yeah. Each one of us can see the one. And the other. That's pretty clear. Over in the engagement chat, we can only see the messages that are in the audience chat. Yes. Yes. Any more things? I think there was one part. The only thing that was open here was... Okay. Which part? The button? No. Outstanding. I'm here. In... Did it... No. I'm just... I don't know. Where was that? The speaker chat. Let me... Very good job. Speaker chat. Chat. Okay. But that one is that one... Something that is still open, isn't it? Yes. Yes. I think it's because it's sent through the Faye public channel, which is a security thing, right? But probably something that we... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But isn't this going back to the whole conversation of figuring out what we want to do with Faye and... Yes. No, but I think the thing that we need to talk about with the customers is more about in combination... Oh, yeah. Because there was some issue that... You were only sure that I showed one chat for some reason. Was it when I disabled... I'm not remembering myself. Was it... When audience can chat. When audience can chat. Is that roll out? Yeah. Let's just make sure that... It's there. So now I'm only able to chat with the speakers for audience chat. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Good. Yeah. That's done. Nice stuff. That's clear. Reminds me I can move that too. Then let's get to question sorting. There was one outstanding bug I saw. On the question sorting... What's that? Let's see. Where is the question sorting here? Hello? Hello? Yeah. It was... Okay. There was a question... That is also done. Yes. Outstanding as well as... If I used it in the audience... No, but I can go back. Just to... Can you have a check out on that one? Yes. There are one of... I also already got some... Some feedback that we should probably quickly talk about. Which was... If you aren't answering... Mark a question as answered. That you're... Not able to... Do anything with it anymore. Which... Siemens who we... Made able to test it. Said that... Yeah. That's not really... Really super... Super well... For... A lot of cases. Because when... We don't have it enabled here. No, no. I said... So... My... Thing to figure out is... But... Did... You did enable... No. When we place it in one bucket... Then it's just... Gone and you can't do anything. With it anymore. Right? So you can't... You can't get it back. You can't get it back to questions. So... And also... You wouldn't be able to show it on a... TV card anymore. If you should be able to show it... At least on a TV card. Still. That that's... No. So if I have this... And Mark has answered... Gone in here. So... Give me more. Give me more. Give me more. Give me more. My God. Then it goes... That goes to its own... It goes to its own... Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And the question is whether... You should be able to reset it... Yeah. Or... Or at least... If you should be able to... Interact with it... In the way that you could... Still show it on a TV card. The whole feature is like... It's out of... Like it's out of mind. Yeah. The whole thing... We're also removing the TV card now. If you have a... Try and... Yeah. Show a TV card and then say... Mark has answered. Yes. It should remove the TV card. Yeah. That's always... Yeah. It's... It's... It's... It's... I think there is just about... That for the marketing side... We just need to explain that... But I think... Clearly. The question to me is like... I should... I think we should be able to... Interact with stuff that's actually... Yeah. I mean... Those are out of mind. Yeah. So the actual question is whether... You should be able to... Pull stuff out... Of the business part. Like whether that's a way... Of resetting this thing on... And I'm... I don't think... Particularly... Hey, this might... Might be a thing that we can ask... Obviously if it's a thing, right? It feels like one of those feedback things that are... That just... Yeah. I think... We should... Keep it like that. And then if we see that this becomes a problem... That people are... So dumb and always... Out of... Yeah. Then kind of pull it back and... Live it... Live it into my actual... Yeah. Yeah. Okay. How do we end up with the... The questions and engagement? Do they all just... Show? Do business not show? I think... Everything shows still. Everything is treated like a normal question. Remember this is actually... Backwards compatible. So it works... Yeah. But before we have the... Delete question thing, right? If we don't know. Yeah. But I think... Still... The question thing... The question part in... In the tab here... Should be for all questions. Okay. Even though you say... I don't want to answer this question... Yeah. You would probably still... No. It's just that... That we... Lose the deleting questions feature. That's intentional. That's... That's just... The deleting questions feature that you can actually... Okay. But does that also delete the question from here? I don't know. Because that was the only way we've used that, right? Yeah. I think it... Because it was the same. That's for chat, right? You can delete chat messages and they just... Hmm. Okay. So we can't both... So what you're... You're saying that we can't... If we say... I'm not saying we should keep it. I'm just saying... It's... What do we... What did... What did we implement the delete questions for? Just for... For what kind of cases? Do... But that was... Okay. But then we should move the delete into in here, I feel like. Because this is where it's relevant now, right? Yeah. I mean... If... If... If... If what... If what I was saying is true, right? That they still want that to be able to delete? Because I think it's going to be weird out here to both have answered, dismissed, and also deleted. It's more about... I mean... Big... Big part of the things that you'll do is not answer, dismiss, and then request, like, delete. If we... Because right now, the delete in the current implementation is also this kind of... Crashover. Maybe... We're still like... We need to keep this whole... I mean... There's going to be cases where people will delete, like, random questions coming in. It's more like one guy asking seven random questions and not wanting to bother with it. Or cancel or whatever. I mean, that's the... That's the case. But then you need to tell people what's the difference between dismissed and deleted. And then... I mean, they'll click it once in the... Figure out that the dismissed ones are there. And the deleted ones are not there. I don't think... I think... Again, this might be... They will ask... People start using it. Yeah. It also is like... They start doing a list of... Kind of user feedback things. If it's not clear, then it's not... Mm-hmm. Okay. So we will... We will take some user feedback on this. On the deletion? I think it's more about... Hey, the post-launch of this... Yeah. I'm assuming... Yeah. Like, actually, you can see how people are using it. So let's keep it like this and then see if we... If we need the deletion in the afterwards. Last part. TV cards. Can you join... The speaker thing? Do you still... Yes. Have that somewhere? So... Next up. Casper. Then we have the next up. That's... The new next up? Yes. No? No? No. So... I just need to... Yeah. Old TV cards on here. Refresh. Yes. That's great. We have... Speak speaker. More? What? Black. Yeah. I think that's what we were talking about. I feel like right now, everything just really falls to the back. Which is definitely... Because we... The black was... It was white. The design was... The design was white. And what we talked about was that in some cases, we have a very nice accent color. That it can be pulled to black. And... But I mean, trying to change the accent color to black is kind of very, very strange. But it's white. Yeah. So it's a little bit of a... I think it is calculated. Threshold always needs to be 0.48. It wasn't that... 0.48 is a great number. Wasn't that the Photoshop magic filter? Okay. Now we'll have it white. But I think... I think it's the calculation. Which is WC80. 0.00. And how do I... SSL. Because it's... The calculation doesn't really match my... Because... So... The right button. Right. White text. Here. But if you check accessibility... I don't know why that is. But that's why the... I mean, it's so nice. Because it's... We turned it. Here. Either you can set it or never. But if you're going to text black, it feels like it's less complete. I don't know why. And... It is followed through the colors. What we saw there. Because it's a GDB by the way. For that. For that. For that one. For that one. Well, according to... Accessibility one. For that blue. Line of red here. Yeah. Yes. I mean, this is my... Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So... If I choose... That color. Which is... This one. Here. This one. Yeah. And... It's interesting. It is. And it's interesting for our own reading. So... I've had this conversation with you before. We're kind of in a similar level. Where... To our eyes, it looks pretty... Like this. To the... Standard. Standard. Which... It makes sense. Because... If you went blue, I think the white text was faster than the black text. So... Now actually... Okay. Okay. This is going straight for our knowledge. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. We have... That one. We have... We have... This TV card. There. You don't think that it would use recognition, right? Like, right now, to be a TV card means having that, right? Yeah, yeah. But I'm just asking questions here, right? The question is whether you should have smaller, like, . For the . Ah, yeah, OK. Yeah, because you're, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hmm, that's interesting. Is there anything that follows the same pattern, like, . Yeah, I mean, I have no opinion. You could be the one who makes the, if you want to call for this. What's the level of what can we show when we have a guest speaker? Who's the speaker? I think so, yeah. That's another one. Then if I decide to ask a question. Yes. My question is, why? How do we fix this? But what was it with this? What was it with this whole tobacco? There was something. No, I think it's that, like, in the data, when we write a letter, it doesn't start with the. Oh, yeah, the, yeah, because we use a bond, actually. The bigger the bond gets, it shouldn't be this much, I guess. But there is something we can never get in a . Because our bond that we use has, you know, space. The bigger it gets, the more space comes from it in the first letter. OK. But it depends on the letter. If it's an M, then it might be all the way to the letter. All the way to the letter. But to case that. But that's. But that's. We invest in the . Well, I was also like, how did you even come up with this? No, but this. It was this. But you had a good test, actually, where there was a few of them, that we could use. And it was like, the word had an age, I think, in start with, or something like that. And it was, like, verified to the point where you could actually see it. So, like, very good . I wish you could. Good, good. Feels like . Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this one. But to be fair, the J is probably the worst letter for this. Thank you. Well, I have a J as well, right? What a weird way to think about it. What a weird way to start a name. Yeah. It's OK. It's OK. But if someone is now called Maurice, would she be? No. No, I think there's something wrong here. I think there's something. We will look at that once more. Yes. Alignment. How do the . Yeah. Oh, so this is . It's still . Holy . Yeah. And you can actually see how it . I think it's something in the same . Yeah. The regression . You can tell them if . You can tell them 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 24. I mean, . But here, we have everything nice and . 18 and 20, that? So . Yeah, this was actually the one that we were. Yeah. What did ? Oh. Say something. Yeah. That's always, like, complete . It was a . We are. OK, this is the goal, I think. I think. Yeah. There we go. This one is pretty clear. That is the current top one. And now, the combo is gone. Yeah, no, . All right. But that's all the . Yeah, I don't know. The . It says it has the black now, right? No, no. It says plus . Complete . What? I mean, we should have an icon that looks just like that. Just . What is that now? What? I don't know. The question would be if I refresh it. I think it changed. OK. What have we up here? No, it's icons or the icon. It's the one that is from the . Yes. So. My question would be, we have, what are we going to do with the remaining cards? I think all those, we have here, the text and the takeaway with the speaker on top. For that part, the next is here. The question is here. OK. But we're going to be doing it with keycat info, webinari info, text. Yeah, I think the big one here is the chat, right? Speaker info and. OK. Then let's have a look at it. And then let's try to. Because I think there's already some in the . It goes under people, right? It's supposed to be in there, both of them, isn't it? Yeah, maybe. Can you tell me just the full? Yeah, OK. I was just. So that was. There's webinari info. And now there's the speaker info, right? Yeah. Oh, but there's also all the speaker lists. Yeah. So speakers is probably everyone. Yeah. And then if you can do individually. Yeah. So that's basically what was intended here was having the speaker info for one speaker. Yeah. Depending on what is there and all the speakers, like having a list of all the speakers that are there. And this is. This is webinari thing, which basically shows. This is. Should we do all three? So speaker info, speaker list, and webinari info. We should do all three. But we. The question is, which one of them do we do first? And which one of. Where do we say, OK, hey. Which one can we do before the launch? Yeah. And. And. And. and Everything else . And we have four TV parts that fit in the . And . If it feels like the highest and it's really . Yeah. So what I'm hearing you saying here is like when we are prioritizing now, we're prioritizing for launching. Maybe even without the new TV cast, they can get driven in after. Yeah. OK. It feels like a lot of time to find the chat. Exactly. But there's a lot of people who are just expanding more than that. Yes. And we carry in the context of billions. There's just no other way to have the chat. So what would be the best outcome is just to say that you run flows and do an estimation of what the overall level is and then that we can prioritize the outcomes. Cool. Yeah. Okay. So just to run through, I think we reached the conclusion here. I just want to, I have besides the tickets that are already being assigned now in German, I have...